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My Last Word on the Kiva Controversy

Published November 12, 2009 @ 12:59PM PT

The controversy around Kiva's marketing reached a new level earlier this week when an article appeared in the New York Times titled "Confusion Over Where Money Lent on Kiva Goes." For those who had been following the story, there was nothing particularly new. But because it was in the New York Times, it's gotten a whole lot more traction. Personally, I think it's time we moved on. To that end, here's my last word on it.

1. (Most Important) Do the people on Kiva actually get the money? The answer is yes, and this is why despite all the ruckus and important questions about transparency, I think Kiva should come out of this with our support. The difference between perception and reality is about the flow of capital. The way it actually works is that Microfinance Institutions make loans to people before their pictures go up on the site. The money donated goes to those MFIs to support the loans they make. Kiva borrowers DO get the money they're promised; where you, as a loaner, come into the equation, is just a little bit different than some thought. For my part, I think that their actual process is the correct one for maximizing efficiency, for the reasons CEO Matt Flannery articulates here.

2. Do I think that Kiva messed up? I sure do. This one has been a bit difficult for me to blog about because while Kiva is one of my favorite nonprofits in the world, I think this was a tremendous goof. There is no more important capital in today's world than trust. And there is nothing more important for a site like Kiva than to create a compelling giving experience. By fudging the perception, or at least not working too hard to change people's misperceptions that ended up being advantageous (depending on how you look at it), Kiva has lost the trust of some of its lenders, perhaps irrevocably.

3. Do I think our whole sector bears some responsibility? Absolutely. The myth that Kiva allowed to flourish played into the deepest, most gut level challenge for the nonprofit sector.

We all want to feel that our particular efforts have done something tangible and knowable for the world. As human beings we carry around our imperfections, our hopes, dreams, and desires in a confused bundle. When we're offered the opportunity to do things that are unequivocally good, we tend to jump at the chance. When we're affirmed and told how our specific efforts have created a specific change, we can often reset our expectations to only want that sort of experience.

The reality of the world is that the contributions we make as people are a messy, confusing combination of daily actions and life time pursuits. The jobs we create, the people we make smile, the charity we give, the family we protect - these are all part of our contributions.

There are some instances where we can know our impact in real time. Helping friends and family is the most obvious, but with the onset of the internet, there are newer opportunities to extend that real time knowing further than ever. Ironically, despite the fact that a farmer in Uganda is not standing at the Microfinance Institution's door waiting until your check clears, the giving experience that Kiva provides is still dramatically more engaged and tangible than most of what people have experienced since the advent of charity that extended beyond people like ourselves some two hundred years ago. Indeed, one of the ironies of this whole thing is that even David Roodman, the researcher who wrote the original post that kicked this whole conversation off thought that the problem was communication, not impact, because the actual practice that Kiva was engaged in made the most sense for the people they were trying to help.

I worry that the donor community has become addicted to an illusion, or, if not an illusion, at least an irregularity.

Most of the good we do in the world will not be knowable, direct or tangible. The sooner we embrace it and use our whole selves and our whole lives to contribute rather than vainly seeking the fleeting moment of compassionate triumph, the more we will help good organizations and good efforts succeed without contriving to mislead (or at least not inform) donors.

4. Do I still think we should support Kiva? Unequivocally yes. Kiva is a young organization, and one of the first to really harness the internet to extend the experience of giving in dramatically new ways. In my mind, they may have goofed on the trust that they have with their lenders, but they have not undermined the trust that we must have in any nonprofit to be committed to delivering the services it promises in the way that most effectively helps the people it's trying to serve. They've changed their communication, they're proactively seeking to rebuild trust with lenders, and at the end of the day, the amount of good that has been done through Kiva remains immense.

This has been an incredibly important chance for us to learn about the importance of trust between nonprofits and donors, and to ask hard questions not just of our institutions but of ourselves.

But we have a lot of good left to do, and at least for me, I think it's time to move on.

(Photo: A farmer in Mbale, Uganda explains how he has made use of microloans and local training programs to add additional crops, from nlw)

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  1. John Reeves

    Hope readers and KIVA supporters keep perspective on these issues and significant good being done, in practical and innovative ways.  The pre-disbursals now make practical sense.  The net-billing system wasn't obvious to me; but, in the longer-term, makes economical and paper-work sense.  And all of these achievements had *low over-head, versus the hugh, unproductive costs of IMF, Intl. banks, etc. financial systems.  To the whole KIVA family, Godspeed!

    Posted by John Reeves on 11/12/2009 @ 02:36PM PT

  2. Alice Korngold

    Well said.  And a good discussion and learning opportunity all around.  And nicely handled by Kiva.

    Posted by Alice Korngold on 11/13/2009 @ 08:16AM PT

  3. Dagfinn Mork

    I think one may ask if Kiva would have had its success if they were as transparent as they now are from the beginning.  Take a look at MyC4, they practice a true person-2-person operation where the entrepreneur have to wait until it is funded by the lenders and first then get the funds.  It is a considerable smaller operation, the question is would I lent if Kiva told me the way it was to start with and for me the answer would have been no - herein lies the lack in transparency for my part and why I stopped as an active lender, the trust simply took to hard a hit.

    I belong to a minority I guess that believe Kiva could have made a sustainable impact if they took a holistic approach and not focused on money alone.  The capital lost is the true person-2-person bond between people able to lend and entrepreneurs in need.  I do think to wait an extra month and provide the direct link between the two groups that Kiva and MFI's seek to cater to is much more valuable than today understood. 

    If one look at Kiva journals and at Kivafriends one may observe there is a great void of engagement not being exploited as the personal connection are not well supported.  If Kiva would give that aspect consideration they would unravel new and sustainable growth potential that would truly set them apart.

    In your article you state they "they're proactively seeking to rebuild trust with lenders", I find that to be positively a false statement.  For many months people have written about their concerns on Kivafriends.org and to Kiva without getting any positive notice from Kiva.  This is a classic reactive change now brought about after public exposure growing into more traditional news media.  If Roodman did any research or just read himself up on Kivafriends I do not know - for sure for that community he kicked in an open door.

    And as you write yourself "I worry that the donor community has become addicted to an illusion" - precisely as Kiva for months chose not to listen to its core lenders that looked out for their interest.

    I think that the time have come to agree with Saint Augustine that almost everything is neither black nor white but have rays of grays in them - that goes for Kiva and for me as a lender.

    Posted by Dagfinn Mork on 11/14/2009 @ 01:11AM PT

  4. Dispelling AND Perpetuating Kiva Myths

    Anyone who has spent much time reading about Kiva has seen a number of stories about what it does and why it does it.  Every once in a while, like lately, these stories hit the mass media and the games begin.  While it’s always good to know the difference between fact and fiction, especially when money is involved, there’s also something much more fundamental going on here.

    One of the most popular myths about Kiva is getting lots of play right now, even while another, just as popular myth flies along right beside it, hiding in plain sight.  What’s even more telling about all this public and private angst is that it’s really not about Kiva at all.  Kiva’s actions are just giving us an opportunity to see through our collective and personal blind spots, if we choose to do so.  What follows is just some food for thought.  Season to taste.

    Kiva Myth #1: Kiva as direct person-to-person lending.

    Even though Kiva started out as person-to-person lending, it didn’t take long to figure out that approach didn’t work so well as its operations grew.  The facts always have been available for those who chose to see them with a little, but not much, digging.  Now, it’s hard to keep that myth going, but there’s really no need to do so anyway.  An excellent summary Kiva’s and other online microcredit platforms’ models can be found at the USAID site, “Person-to-Person Lending: Is Financial Democracy a Click Away?”

    http://www.microlinks.org/ev_en.php?ID=26651_201&ID2=DO_TOPIC

    Kiva Myth #2: Kiva as charity.

    This blog includes many excellent examples of the second myth, Kiva as charity.  Here are just two.

    "I worry that the DONOR [LENDER] community has become addicted to an illusion, or, if not an illusion, at least an irregularity."

    "The sooner we embrace it and use our whole selves and our whole lives to contribute rather than vainly seeking the fleeting moment of compassionate triumph, the more we will help good organizations and good efforts succeed without contriving to mislead (or at least not inform) DONORS [LENDERS]."

    The language of philanthropy – donors, beneficiaries, giving, contributions – routinely finds itself intermingled with the language a microcredit – lenders, investors, borrowers, loans, payments.  Even highly regarded philanthropic organizations like the Aspen Institute often can use charitable and microfinance language almost interchangeably.  Here’s an example of how Kiva and other online platforms are viewed from this perspective, “Online Philanthropy Markets: From 'Feel-Good' Giving to Effective Social Investing?”

    http://www.aspeninstitute.org/publications/online-philanthropy-markets-feel-good-giving-effective-social-investing

    The Hero with a Thousand Faces – Kiva Heroes, Quests, Dreams and Myths

    Joseph Campbell has eloquently demonstrated the power of myth for us in all aspects of our lives.  The current turmoil over the Kiva myths is no different.  I’ve commented on this aspect of Kiva’s allure in more detail at the Kiva Friends discussion board.  An excerpt follows.

    I believe the underlying reason Kiva draws in so many people is that it offers us dreams of mythic proportions.  Kiva is the central hero on a quest to alleviate global poverty and we are its helpers.  The Hero’s Journey is unfolding amid ever-increasing trials of obstacles and valor.  What battles lie ahead remain to be seen.  The fates of our public dreams and private myths rest in the balance.  The malaise and discontent many of us are experiencing at this stage of the journey reflect our concerns about whether the hero ultimately will prevail.  Even more disconcerting than our concerns about the fate of the hero’s quest are growing concerns among us that we have put our dreams into the hands of a false hero – not a charlatan, but simply a mere mortal, much like we see ourselves.  If this is the case, which of course it is, then we must once again resume our own searches for this elusive hero.

    http://www.kivafriends.org/index.php/topic,3027.msg49328.html#msg49328

     

    Posted by Richard F on 11/14/2009 @ 12:59PM PT

  5. Lynann Bradbury

    First, an acknowledgement to Nathanial.  Of all the comments I've read in the blogosphere about the Kiva controversy, yours are the most eloquent and well-explained. 

    To your point about efficiency, facilitating direct 1:1 loans requires substantial operational involvement -- not to mention language and connectivity barriers -- that would dramatically escalate the cost of the loan. Having talked with Matt Flannery face-to-face earlier this year, and having been a KivaFriend for the past year, I truly believe their hearts and minds are in the right place. 

    While they scramble to address the misperception, it is a reminder to all of us to be authentic and transparent -- not just in a controversy, but in our lives.

    Posted by Lynann Bradbury on 11/15/2009 @ 05:55PM PT

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Nathaniel is the founding Director of the Center for Global Engagement at Northwestern University, which works annually with hundreds of students in dozens of countries around the world through curricular programs and student project incubation.

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